Curse

Realm of Fiery Doom · Jun 20, 2007, 10:12 AM // 10:12

I was running around the desert yesterday night when I saw a level 17 female Mesmer with no secondary profession. Apparently, she was able to get to Augury Rock without getting a secondary profession by getting a ferry from Elona. She said that she can use the Ritualist Sunspear skill, and therefore can use all of them.

If this is not intended, then it needs to be changed immediately.

1. I'm in school, so I won't be able to post again for about another 2 hours.
2. I'm not sure if this is the right forum, so I'm sorry if it's not.
3. If this has been pointed out before, sorry about that too.

ensoriki · Jun 20, 2007, 11:09 AM // 11:09

.....wow thats not cool.

Now excuse me im about to make a no proffession Monk or Ele.

Danax · Jun 20, 2007, 11:21 AM // 11:21

I don't really see the use of exploiting this if you can't get very far in Sunspear Ranks without attaining a secondary profession (For Elona Based Characters.)

Alderin · Jun 20, 2007, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

.....wow thats not cool.

Now excuse me im about to make a no proffession Monk or Ele.

No, make a Monk or Mesmer or Paragon or Assassin.

Necro Skills: Necrosis can be used all around so it's usable without needing to be a necro. Same with Signet of Corruption

Elementalist Skills: Not really useful now plus one requires the elements.

Warrior Skills: Save Yourselves can be good though you become the main target. Whirlwind Attack really isn't that useful.

Ranger Skills: If you went Ritualist then Triple shot is good as you can put points into attributes for Weapon Spells. Never Rampage Alone is ok if mixed with Triple Shot but not really needed.

Mesmer Skills: Cry of Pain is good but if you aren't a Mesmer Primary then you need Ether Nightmare for the hex condition or you can take Web of Disruption.

Monk Skills: Well both really aren't useful unless you are a Monk Primary and then if you are going for only PvE only skills then the only real viable one is Seed of Life

Paragon Skills: Spear of Fury can be nice but "There's Nothing to Fear!" pretty much requires you to be a Paragon Primary with a good deal of points in Leadership.

Ritualist Skills: Vampirism is usable as is Summon Spirits though Summon Spirits is kinda useless unless you are a Rit primary and take more spirit skills.

Assassin Skills: Shadow Sanctuary is useful for a caster primary class but Critical Agility is rather pointless unless you are Assassin primary with a lot of points in Critical Strikes.

Dervish Skills: Unless you are a Dervish primary then both Aura of Holy Might and Eternal Aura are usless except if you want the holy damage from them.

All in all, doesn't seem worth it. Well, atleast not to me since it seems to hinder you more than anything really unless you play Mesmer primary using "Cry of Pain" and "Nercrosis" and maybe a few others but mostly using your actual class skills.

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Originally Posted by Danax

I don't really see the use of exploiting this if you can't get very far in Sunspear Ranks without attaining a secondary profession (For Elona Based Characters.)

Level to 20 in other campaigns and then go back into Elona in Hard Mode if you've had a character beat that campaign already.

Miral · Jun 20, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Alderin

Level to 20 in other campaigns and then go back into Elona in Hard Mode if you've had a character beat that campaign already.

I think the point was that with such a low rank, the skills will be pathetically weak.

now, the mesmer might have actually been pulling your leg, haven't tried yet. But sometimes if you don't have any attributes spent in your secondary profession it won't show up on your name (bug I assume), so she may have actually been a Me/Rt...

Realm of Fiery Doom · Jun 20, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Thanks Mirai, I didn't know that.

But still, if it's unintended I suppose it's a bug and needs to be fixed.

Gli · Jun 20, 2007, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by Miral

I think the point was that with such a low rank, the skills will be pathetically weak.

I think you missed Alderin's point. If you level up to 20 in another continent, you can go back to Istan and farm sunspear points in hard mode, all the way op to Legendary Spearmarshal, thanks to the HM blessings.

Miral · Jun 20, 2007, 12:36 PM // 12:36

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Originally Posted by Gli

I think you missed Alderin's point. If you level up to 20 in another continent, you can go back to Istan and farm sunspear points in hard mode, all the way op to Legendary Spearmarshal, thanks to the HM blessings.

ohh ok, has anyone actually tried that? does it let you in hardmode without a secondary?

TedTheDead · Jun 20, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

I have a level 20 Warrior with no secondary profession about to beat Prophesies who I will then beat Factions with, and then GWEN as well hehe. Needless to say nobody lets me in their PUG because Im a n00b they say, "OMG NO SECONDARY N00BSSSZZor"

You used to be able to make a character in NF and then run to the Warriors Isle guild hall from Kamadan and get to Lions Arch without any quests or requirements. I just got him to level 20 a few days ago, I forgot that bounties on Istan are available in HM once you reach level 20. I will check if the no secondary has an effect when I get home and see if I can max out my sunspear title with no secondary and use the sunspear skills too heh.

Honestly he is more of a gimmick/fun character I store all of my nice skin swords/shields on, but its really fun playing a campaign with no secondary. I hope ANet does not step in and somehow force those who got off Istan using the guild hall trick to get a secondary, it would ruin the fun. I do at least get to have remove hex, mend condition, and ressurect on him, so I can actually get the basics covered from the free "preview" skills you get handed before you choose a secondary.

XvArchonvX · Jun 20, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30

Personally I think there are better things A-net could be doing with their time other than fixing this. The fact that someone who has not yet taken a secondary has access to several sunspear skills seems rather unconsequential to me.

Avarre · Jun 20, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23

The entire principle of these skills is that they don't have to be balanced (and most players don't want them to be) because they are PvE only, so who really cares tbh.

Neo Nugget · Jun 20, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Well if you can change your 2ndary, why does it matter anyways?

Danax · Jun 20, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

It doesn't matter, you're limiting a character from a campaign and a secondary to use Sunspear skills where most aren't good without being the primary to use an exploit that will probably be fixed.